Wales · Eryri National Park

Tal y Fan

HewittNuttallMarilynHuMPSimm

3 classifications here — Marilyn, HuMP and Simm — belong to lists OpenFell holds only part of, so they have no list page. See how far the coverage goes.

Tal y Fan, 610 m, Conwy
Tal y Fan, 610 m, Conwy. Photo by myself, Public domain · Wikimedia Commons
Height
610 m · 2,001 ft
Prominence
189.6 m
Grid reference
SH 72939 72651
Coordinates
53.23563, -3.90524
County / area
Conwy
Region
Snowdonia
OS Landranger
115
OS Explorer
OL17E
Summit feature
rock 3m SW of trig point
Key col
SH 7144 7185 (420.5 m)

About Tal y Fan

Tal y Fan is an outlying peak of the Carneddau, one of four Marilyns in that range along with Carnedd Llywelyn, Pen Llithrig y Wrach and Creigiau Gleision. It sits midway between the Conwy valley to the east and Penmaenmawr on the coast to the north-west, and is the most northerly summit in Wales above 610 m.

Its height has been close to the line: in May 2013 the BBC reported that a precise GPS measurement, verified by the Ordnance Survey, gave 609.98 m or 2,001 feet, confirming mountain status. Bwlch y Ddeufaen separates it from the main Carneddau ridge, where Carnedd y Ddelw is the nearest summit, with Pen y Castell directly opposite to the south.

Background written from facts in the Wikipedia article on Tal y Fan (CC BY-SA 4.0). Heights, prominence and grid references come from the Database of British & Irish Hills, not from Wikipedia.

Access rights here

Conditional Right to roam: Right to roam only on mapped CRoW open access land.

Permission needed Wild camping: Permission needed everywhere.

General position for Wales — local byelaws, seasonal restrictions and closures can override it. Full details: access rights in Wales ·check another location.

Daylight at this summit today

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Computed astronomically for 53.236, -3.905. Plan your finish with the daylight safety planner.

Summit weather live

Loading forecast for the summit (610 m)…

Forecast adjusted to summit altitude. Weather data from MET Norway (CC BY 4.0).

Finding the summit

Surveyor's note

rock is 0.35m higher than base of trig point.

The recorded summit point is rock 3m SW of trig point. That distinction matters on broad or flat tops, where the obvious cairn is not always the true high point.

Survey method
Leica NA730/Leica GS15/Leica RX1250
Record revised
13-Dec-17
Drop measured from
SH 7144 7185 · 420.5 m

Classification history: Summit height was measured as 610.0 +/-0.05m.

Survey notes are field observations recorded in the Database of British & Irish Hills (v18.3, CC BY 4.0) by the hill-surveying community.

Long-distance paths past this hill

3 waymarked long-distance routes run within 2.5 km of the summit — useful if you are linking this hill into a longer walk, or want a made path for the approach.

RouteTotal lengthFrom summit
Cambrian Way483 kmover the top
North Wales Path97 km2.2 km
North Wales Pilgrim's Way51 km2.4 km

Route lines © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL); distance from the summit computed by OpenFell.

Reaching Tal y Fan by train

3 National Rail stations sit within 8 km of the summit — close enough to make a car-free day of it. Distances are straight lines, not walking routes.

StationFrom summitSummit lies
Penmaenmawr4.1 kmS of the station
Llanfairfechan5.7 kmSE of the station
Tal-y-Cafn5.8 kmW of the station

Each station page lists every hill in its reach, long-distance paths from the door and a live-times link — see all stations with hills in reach. Station positions from NaPTAN (OGL v3.0).

Get food nearby

3 places to eat or drink within 10 km of the summit, rated under the Food Hygiene Rating Scheme (Scotland runs its own Food Hygiene Information Scheme, a pass/fail equivalent).

Rated places to eat within 10 km of Tal y Fan
PlaceTypeRatingDistance
Dutch Pancake HouseRestaurant/Cafe/Canteen5 out of 53.7 km · E
Bron Eryri HotelPub/bar/nightclub5 out of 53.8 km · N
Llandudno grill penmaenmawrRestaurant/Cafe/Canteen4 out of 53.8 km · N

Classifications and ratings are the local authority's own and can be coarse — this is a lead, not a guarantee of opening hours or that food is served to non-residents. Follow a name through to the official rating page to check, and confirm before you rely on it.

Food hygiene data from the Food Standards Agency and Food Standards Scotland (Open Government Licence v3.0). Distances and directions computed by OpenFell from the summit.

The Tal y Fan group

One other listed summit sits in the same prominence group, with Tal y Fan as the independent hill at its head.

Listed summits in the Tal y Fan prominence group
SummitHeightDrop
Foel Lwyd600 m53 m

Grouping is by prominence alone: a summit belongs to the nearest higher Marilyn it connects to without a deeper intervening col. Over a large massif that can gather hills no one would walk in a single day, and which few would describe as parts of the same mountain — it is a measure of independence, not a suggested route.

Nearest listed peaks

PeakHeightDistance
Foel Lwyd600.2 m1 km
Drum771 m3.7 km
Yr Orsedd559 m3.7 km
Pen y Castell623.5 m3.8 km
Foel-ganol536 m4.3 km
Llwytmor849 m5.2 km