
- Height
- 659 m · 2,162 ft
- Prominence
- 15.5 m
- Grid reference
- SH 98852 29006
- Coordinates
- 52.84900, -3.50344
- County / area
- Gwynedd
- Region
- Bala to Welshpool
- OS Landranger
- 125
- OS Explorer
- 255
- Summit feature
- ground 3m S of pole
- Key col
- SH 9882 2876 (643.5 m)
About Y Groes Fagl
Y Groes Fagl belongs to the Hirnantau, the section of the Berwyn range in north-east Wales, and is counted as a top of Cyrniau Nod. The Snowdonia National Park boundary runs just east of the summit.
The character here is flat, featureless moorland. The view opens out a long way in every direction but has little to fix on, and the summit itself is identified only by a post. Northwards the ridge carries on towards Foel Cwm Sian Llwyd.
Background written from facts in the Wikipedia article on Y Groes Fagl (CC BY-SA 4.0). Heights, prominence and grid references come from the Database of British & Irish Hills, not from Wikipedia.
Access rights here
Conditional Right to roam: Right to roam only on mapped CRoW open access land.
Permission needed Wild camping: Permission needed everywhere.
General position for Wales — local byelaws, seasonal restrictions and closures can override it. Full details: access rights in Wales · check another location.
Daylight at this summit today
- Sunrise
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- Sunset
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- Daylight
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- Civil twilight ends
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Computed astronomically for 52.849, -3.503. Plan your finish with the daylight safety planner.
Summit weather live
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Forecast adjusted to summit altitude. Weather data from MET Norway (CC BY 4.0).
Finding the summit
ground 20m N and 20m S about 30cm lower.
The recorded summit point is ground 3m S of pole. That distinction matters on broad or flat tops, where the obvious cairn is not always the true high point.
- Survey method
- Leica NA730/Trimble GeoXH 6000
- Record revised
- 17-Jul-14
- Drop measured from
- SH 9882 2876 · 643.5 m
Survey notes are field observations recorded in the Database of British & Irish Hills (v18.3, CC BY 4.0) by the hill-surveying community.
Which hill this one belongs to
Y Groes Fagl is not counted as an independent hill in its own right. In prominence terms it belongs to Foel Cedig (668 m) — the nearest Marilyn you can reach from this summit without first dropping below its key col, 644 m.
Grouping is by prominence alone: a summit belongs to the nearest higher Marilyn it connects to without a deeper intervening col. Over a large massif that can gather hills no one would walk in a single day, and which few would describe as parts of the same mountain — it is a measure of independence, not a suggested route.
Nearest listed peaks
| Peak | Height | Distance |
|---|---|---|
| Foel Cedig | 667.5 m | 1 km |
| Stac Rhos | 629.8 m | 2.2 km |
| Foel Cwm-Sian Llwyd | 648 m | 2.5 km |
| Cefn Gwyntog | 614 m | 2.6 km |
| Pen y Boncyn Trefeilw | 644.2 m | 2.7 km |
| Foel Goch | 612.7 m | 4.5 km |