Wales · Bannau Brycheiniog National Park

Allt Forgan

Height
512.3 m · 1,681 ft
Grid reference
SO 06570 17829
Coordinates
51.85117, -3.35790
County / area
Powys
OS Landranger
160
OS Explorer
OL12E
Summit feature
no feature: grass
Key col
SO 0656 1819 (477.6 m)

Access rights here

Conditional Right to roam: Right to roam only on mapped CRoW open access land.

Permission needed Wild camping: Permission needed everywhere.

General position for Wales — local byelaws, seasonal restrictions and closures can override it. Full details: access rights in Wales ·check another location.

Daylight at this summit today

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Computed astronomically for 51.851, -3.358. Plan your finish with the daylight safety planner.

Summit weather live

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Forecast adjusted to summit altitude. Weather data from MET Norway (CC BY 4.0).

Finding the summit

Surveyor's note

summit 115m SE at SO 06669 17764 is 0.3m lower.

The recorded summit point is no feature: grass. That distinction matters on broad or flat tops, where the obvious cairn is not always the true high point.

Record revised
03-Jun-24
Drop measured from
SO 0656 1819 · 477.6 m

Survey notes are field observations recorded in the Database of British & Irish Hills (v18.3, CC BY 4.0) by the hill-surveying community.

Get food nearby

3 places to eat or drink within 10 km of the summit, rated under the Food Hygiene Rating Scheme (Scotland runs its own Food Hygiene Information Scheme, a pass/fail equivalent).

Rated places to eat within 10 km of Allt Forgan
PlaceTypeRatingDistance
The Old Barn Tea RoomRestaurant/Cafe/Canteen5 out of 52.6 km · SW
Brecon Mountain RailwayRestaurant/Cafe/Canteen5 out of 56.2 km · S
Pontsticill Station CafeRestaurant/Cafe/Canteen5 out of 56.2 km · S

Classifications and ratings are the local authority's own and can be coarse — this is a lead, not a guarantee of opening hours or that food is served to non-residents. Follow a name through to the official rating page to check, and confirm before you rely on it.

Food hygiene data from the Food Standards Agency and Food Standards Scotland (Open Government Licence v3.0). Distances and directions computed by OpenFell from the summit.

Which hill this one belongs to

Allt Forgan is not counted as an independent hill in its own right. In prominence terms it belongs to Waun Rydd (769 m) — the nearest Marilyn you can reach from this summit without first dropping below its key col, 478 m.

Grouping is by prominence alone: a summit belongs to the nearest higher Marilyn it connects to without a deeper intervening col. Over a large massif that can gather hills no one would walk in a single day, and which few would describe as parts of the same mountain — it is a measure of independence, not a suggested route.

Nearest listed peaks

PeakHeightDistance
Allt Lwyd653.1 m1.7 km
Pant y Creigiau565 m1.9 km
Bryniau Gleision538 m2.5 km
Waun Rydd769.2 m2.8 km
Bwlch y Ddwyallt754.1 m2.8 km
Fan y Big716.7 m4.1 km